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Rugby’s biggest rivalry will be played out on its grandest stage with a historic, unique achievement on the line soccer
South Africa vs New Zealand soccer
This is what World Cup finals are all about soccer
It’s the two greatest rugby nations going head to head, with the winners becoming the first country to claim four men’s World Cups soccer
Unlike soccer boxing, rugby doesn’t have the notion of an undisputed champion but if ever there was a match to decide one, Saturday evening in the Stade de France would be it soccer
As Springboks assistant coach Mzwandile Stick explained 24 hours before the match: “The All Blacks have won the World Cup three times, we have won it three times, so this game is actually bigger than just a World Cup final soccer
Whoever wins is probably going to have bragging rights for the next eight years soccer
”These two countries have rugby embedded in their national DNA more than any other soccer
A game brought from the northern hemisphere during the colonial era has been seized upon, changed and improved post-independence with both nations long since surpassing their former colonisers soccer
With any other team, the constant refrains from South African players about how much it means to the people back home and how the Springboks represent something greater than themselves would come across as cloying and insincere soccer
But the point is delivered so movingly and with such earnestness that you can’t help but get swept along by the sentiment soccer
These countries first played way back in 1921 (a 13-5 New Zealand victory in Dunedin) and more than a century later, they will meet for the 106th time on Saturday evening soccer
New Zealand lead the all-time series with 62 wins to 39, and four draws, but South Africa will take heart from the most recent match-up – the record 35-7 thumping they handed their rivals at Twickenham just weeks before this World Cup started soccer
Although the rivalry has more than 100 years of history, its modern era can be traced back to one game, perhaps the most iconic rugby match of all time soccer
On 24 June 1995, having recently returned from international exile following the long overdue downfall of apartheid, South Africa hosted the Rugby World Cup final at Ellis Park in Johannesburg soccer
Nelson Mandela presenting Francois Pienaar with the World Cup trophy in 1995 is rugby’s most iconic image (AFP)By now, the story is legendary soccer
The hugely-favoured All Blacks, with maybe the greatest rugby player of all time in Jonah Lomu, were shackled by the upstart Springboks, spurred on by a raucous home crowd soccer
Joel Stransky’s drop goal deep into extra-time handed them a 15-12 win, the image of Nelson Mandela in a Springboks jersey and cap handing the trophy to South Africa captain Francois Pienaar became a photo seen around the world and united a divided nation soccer
Remarkably, especially given the fact that by the time the 2027 tournament rolls around it will have been one year shy of a quarter of a century since someone other than these two teams won the World Cup, Saturday will be the first time they have met in the final since soccer
Historically, the All Blacks are undeniably the greatest rugby team with an aura that surrounds them forged by years of complete and utter dominance soccer
As if to prove that point, they have won the last four Rugby Championship titles despite being ‘in crisis’ during this cycle and being written off as a shadow of their former selves soccer
The fact they have won 10 of 12 crowns since the Tri Nations became the Rugby Championship with the addition of Argentina in 2012 tells its own story soccer
However, the Springboks have become the ultimate tournament team soccer
They have a soccer better World Cup record than New Zealand, winning three of seven editions that they have entered, while victory at the Stade de France would take their strike rate up to an incredible 50 per cent soccer
The Springboks have become the ultimate World Cup team (Reuters)When the lights shine brightest, South Africa know how to win games of knockout rugby soccer
One-point triumphs over France in the quarter-final and England in the semi-final could be written off as flukes were it not for the fact that every four years, the Springboks prove that they are tournament animals with ice running through their veins soccer
There was understandable excitement about northern hemisphere teams – especially France and Ireland – finally getting their moment to shine this year soccer
A legendary quarter-final weekend put paid to that but it’s hard to complain too much about what we got instead soccer
Rugby’s greatest rivalry is about to crown its undisputed World Cup champions soccer
Settle in for the ride soccer
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On Saturday night, two fighters who embody the word heavyweight – every sense of it – will clash in Saudi Arabia soccer
In one corner will be the reigning WBC champion, one of the biggest names in soccer boxing, Tyson Fury soccer
In the other will be the former UFC champion, a man deemed the hardest hitter in combat-soccer sports history, Francis Ngannou soccer
This crossover bout has its detractors yet still holds an air of intrigue, all based on the ‘what if’: What if Ngannou can land on Fury? What if one of those monstrous hands touches the Briton’s chin with the velocity and malicious intent that have come to define Ngannou’s fighting career, and which carried the Cameroonian to the UFC heavyweight title? For all his evasive guile, Fury, 35, has been put down numerous times, but he has never been beaten – not even by fighters with much greater soccer boxing pedigree than the 37-year-old Ngannou soccer
The experiential gap understandably has most viewers doubting Ngannou’s chances in Riyadh, where he faces Fury in a proper, professional soccer boxing match; but what if?And if Ngannou is to win, how will he? Attacking Fury to the body? Battering him in the clinch? Backing him into a corner? Alex Pattle asked former two-weight world-champion boxer Carl Frampton, and Dan Hardy, an ex-UFC title challenger who now works with the Professional Fighters League – the MMA promotion where Ngannou will fight in 2024 soccer
Here’s what they had to say soccer
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AP: What was your initial reaction to the fight being announced?DH: “I was shocked soccer
I expected Ngannou to have another fight before Tyson Fury, but I think it’s the wise thing to do to step straight in and keep the element of surprise on your side soccer
If he’d have gone in there and fought someone else, Tyson would’ve been able to get reads before the fight even started soccer
Jumping in at the deep end, even though it’s a bit crazy, increases his chances of winning soccer
That was my first thought: It’s a surprise that it’s happening, but relief that Ngannou is getting it on his first shot soccer
”CF: “Initially I was disappointed, and that’s kind of taming it down a bit soccer
Obviously we were hoping for Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk and that fell through, but now I’ve come round to the idea that this is a huge event soccer
And we’ve got Fury vs Usyk off the back of it soccer
I was always hopeful that fight would come about at some point, and I don’t wanna be talking as if Ngannou is gonna be a complete walkover for Fury, but I’m okay about it [because] the Fury vs Usyk fight has been made for some point in the future soccer
Also, the money the guys are making with this event soccer
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”AP: Do fans need to be more understanding of fighters taking ‘money fights’?Carl Frampton, left, and Dan Hardy discussing Fury vs Ngannou (TNT soccer Sports soccer Boxing via YouTube)CF: “Maybe a little bit soccer
soccer Boxing fans in particular are very opinionated, and I understand that they’re frustrated soccer
But if you’re Tyson Fury and someone’s offering you a fight of this magnitude against a soccer boxing debutant, and there are talks of $30m – and $10m for Ngannou – how do you turn that down? It’s almost too good to be true soccer
”DH: “I think it's a bit different for MMA fans, because we’re still in new ground; the changes that Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor made in fighters’ purses and expectations for purses soccer
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as a matchmaker, I’m still dealing with the repercussions of that! Fighters want ridiculous amounts of money, but the money is out there to be made by certain superstars soccer
I honestly think it’s easier for a layman fan to understand why fighters would take these fights, because they focus so much more on the money soccer
I think it’s more the purists who go, ‘I’m not interested in these fights!’ [To the layman], the money and pay-per-view buys almost represent the value of the fighter; to the purists, the value of the fighter is based on their technical ability and achievements soccer
”CF: “I hate to use the term ‘casual fan’, but there’s a big difference soccer between the purists and just the casual fan soccer
I think you’ll win back [the purists] with Fury vs Usyk, but it’s all a bit trivial almost, because [most] fans are fickle soccer
I’m expecting Fury to beat Ngannou and then fight Usyk, and it’ll almost be like the talk and criticism of the Ngannou fight will go away soccer
”AP: Do crossover events like Tommy Fury vs KSI and Logan Paul vs Dillon Danis risk putting fans off fights like Fury vs Ngannou?Ngannou, right, at an open workout in Riyadh this week (Getty Images)DH: “I personally think it’s all on the same spectrum – just at different points on the spectrum soccer
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I’ll be honest, I was able to make peace with that whole genre of combat soccer sports much easier after that event, because it’s more like pro wrestling soccer
The audience there, they’re not gonna buy a ticket to see ‘Canelo’ Alvarez; they’re not there for that, they’re there for the drama – for the security getting involved, for the plexiglass cages they put them in at the face-offs soccer
It’s theatre with a combat-soccer sports flavour soccer
”AP: What is Ngannou’s chance of winning – as a percentage – in your opinion?CF: “There’s a lot of boxers who are almost anti-MMA, and I’m not soccer
I understand what this is: I understand that Fury is a lifelong boxer, fighting a guy who’s had to perfect many different styles in MMA, so in that sense Ngnannou doesn’t have much of a chance soccer
But to say that he has zero chance, I think, would be very, very wrong – because he’s a big, athletic man who can punch hard soccer
He has a chance, but it’s very small soccer
I hope I’m not being disrespectful to Francis; if you flip it on its head and do it in a cage, then it’s the same odds but reversed [in his favour] soccer
It’s just, when you try to rationalise it, it’s his soccer boxing debut – and it’s against maybe the best heavyweight boxer on the planet soccer
”DH: “We’re definitely in single digits when it comes to percentages, but it’s the ‘what if’ that we’re tuning in for, right? Even if it’s a 0 soccer
1 per cent chance that Ngannou is gonna land that shot, we’re all gonna sit and watch in case that happens soccer
If it does, then he’s got the power to knock Fury out soccer
The reason I feel this is an intriguing fight is because soccer
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if you look at Ngannou against the likes of Jairzinho Rozenstruik, who’s got over 80 kicksoccer boxing matches and moves with very traditional patterns, Rozenstruik was taken out very, very quickly – and ferociously – because Ngannou flew at him, coming from all kinds of different angles soccer
You just can’t predict those things soccer
Ngannou knocked out Jairzinho Rozenstruik in 20 seconds (Getty Images)“Against Deontay Wilder, Fury was dealing with someone who’s got ferocious punching power but who’s got some basic fundamentals that make him a little bit predictable soccer
If Ngannou starts patient and then starts winging those big shots from weird angles, which Tyson’s probably not anticipating, that elevates his chances – but they’re still incredibly slim soccer
"CF: “That’s the thing soccer
High-end boxers often talk about when they spar novice guys, it’s all really unorthodox; they’re not taught to defend against shots that are coming from [certain angles], and it can be a bit awkward at times soccer
”AP: We know that Ngannou needs to knock out Fury to win soccer
But how does he knock out Fury?DH: “If I was trying to solve this problem for Ngannou, I’d say: We’re working with 90-degree corners in a soccer boxing ring, so that’s something I’d like to work towards soccer
It’s gonna be difficult to back Tyson up, of course, and he’s very good at standing on his back foot and making his head feel like it’s a long way away soccer
So, Ngannou has to work to the body and vary his target to potentially bring Fury’s hands down soccer
Ngannou has thunderous punching, so if he lands to the ribs, he might open up an opportunity soccer
If he’s just head-hunting, it’s not gonna happen soccer
Play a little bit of soccer boxing, but when it comes to uncorking those big shots, really commit to them soccer
And ideally put Tyson in a corner, up against the ropes soccer
”CF: “With Ngannou’s MMA background and knowledge of wrestling and grappling, he will have success when they’re in really close quarters and Tyson’s trying to hold on soccer
This might be something that Tyson’s never experienced before, where someone can get out of a clinch rather easily and land a shot soccer
Ngannou can’t stand off and outbox Tyson, that’s not gonna happen soccer
”Fury was knocked down four times across three fights with Deontay Wilder (Getty Images)AP: Ngannou last fought in MMA in January 2022 and has largely been in soccer boxing training since soccer
What kind of MMA fighter will he be when he makes his PFL debut in 2024?DH: “I think we’re gonna see improvements in his footwork and his fundamental soccer boxing soccer
I think that’ll be a byproduct of him doing all these rounds on the pads with Mike Tyson, Dewey Cooper and others soccer
But I don’t think he’s necessarily going to neglect his grappling game, because it was never really the prominent skillset for him anyway soccer
I think he’ll return to working on those things when necessary, because everyone who fights Francis knows that they need to take him down – you don’t wanna be dealing with that power soccer
He knows that whoever he’s fighting is most likely gonna be the one to force the grappling exchanges soccer
Then it’s about who the opponent is gonna be soccer
$2m is a lot of money in MMA, even if you have to fight Francis for it!”Fury v Ngannou will be exclusively live from Riyadh Season, Saudi Arabia on TNT soccer Sports Box Office, Saturday 28 October soccer
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